By Fernando Bartolomé for MGE
The internet is a real treasure for all people who want to find things, to learn, to communicate or to have a good time. The next person being interviewed is here only by the result of a google search.
Looking for guitar ensembles
resources for students and MGE readers I find a true gem in this sense: AndrewForrest website. A site full of music scores for guitar in all type of
combinations and levels. Immediately I contacted him and I asked him to do an
interview. So here we have Andrew Forrest talking about his long career as performer, teacher, composer and arranger.
I think your passion for the guitar started late. Can
you tell us about your beginnings?
It wasn’t that late! I had had an attempt at the piano
and clarinet at the ages of 6 – 10 but never felt they were for me. Then my
father started on classical guitar and the sound attracted me straight away. I
found I couldn’t stop playing though my technique was atrocious until I had a
term of lessons at school with Robert Spencer, the English
lutenist/musicologist, which gave me a secure foundation. From then on I was
committed to playing and continued through university (sciences not guitar)
until I was giving local concerts on a fairly regular basis.
When at the age of 30 the job as a peripatetic teacher
of guitar came up in North Yorkshire, I went for it straight away since I
thought this would encourage me to become more involved and become a better
player. Unfortunately I became a worse player but greatly enjoyed the teaching!
You have arranged
over 100 works for all combinations of guitars: duets, trios, quartets, orchestra
... Why did you focus your interest on guitar ensembles?
When I first started teaching to groups in schools,
there was very little guitar ensemble music available, especially at the easier
levels, so I had little choice but to start arranging and composing. I had done
some arrangements for 2 and 3 guitars before but not at beginner standard. The
teaching was principally in groups of about 4 though I also ran two guitar
ensembles on Saturdays with up to 20 in each and I had to produce ensemble
music for these too. I soon found that even very simple pieces in 3 or 4 parts
could sound beautiful, even with a beginner ensemble.
In your orchestral arrangements you include two
requintos, four guitars, a bass guitar and a bass. Can you talk us about this
combination and about requintos, bass guitar and bass?
I wanted to extend the range of the guitar ensemble,
especially with larger groups, so that parts remained clear. A bass guitar was
an obvious choice and I started with one electric bass, suitable amplified and
with the tone controls adjusted so as to fit in as well as possible with the classical
guitars. Eventually we could afford 2 classical basses which sound great with
the ensemble.
At the top end, I chose requintos to extend the range
up a fourth. I also found that not many were needed since their tone cuts
through the ensemble easily. I hadn’t heard of the Niibori instrument range at
this stage but I feel that requintos, standard tenors and classical basses
cover the range well.
In your arrangements or your CDs, instruments like
electric guitar or electric bass don’t appear. Could requintos be replaced by
electric guitars and bass by electric bass or do you think the music may become
unbalanced?
I have heard guitar ensembles playing my arrangements
entirely on electric guitars and electric bass. Though it wasn’t how I originally
conceived the sound, I have heard some enjoyable performances.
Where the ensemble has been mixed, then the electric
guitars have to be reined in so as not to drown out the acoustic ones since
balance becomes a problem.
I have also arranged several pieces for unusual
combinations of instruments e.g banjos, mandolins, classical guitars and rhythm
guitar. These have been fun to do.
I realized immediately that this was someone who was
aware of the problems of clarity and range in larger guitar ensembles and so
started to rearrange most of my guitar orchestra pieces for these ensembles
too.
How did you develop your ability to arrange music? How
do you organize the process?
Initially, I started with no formal musical training,
using just my guitar and attempting to play all the parts at once! I’m still
somewhat untrained though I have studied basic musical theory since I started
arranging.
When I began to use computer software to aid in
producing scores and parts, I soon found out that I had to rely completely on
my inner ear and imagination. Pieces that I knew worked with ensembles often
sounded thin on computer and also what sounded great on a computer often failed
to satisfy with a real ensemble. I think that was the most important lesson I
had.
Firstly, I keep an ear out for suitable material: much
of the music out there is not suitable for guitar. I feel that it’s not worth
doing unless a guitar ensemble can produce something (in theory at least!)
which is worth listening to and not just a weak copy of the original
instrumentation.
Secondly, I work on the parts trying at all times to
make all the parts make musical sense and be interesting to play - perhaps I
don’t always manage this but it seems important to keep all members of the
ensemble happy.
I play through as much as possible on one guitar;
sometimes I may record some parts to see how they sound. Then it’s time for a
print-out which I think it important to make very clear; I’ve found that sight
reading is much improved if the player can see the material easily. Then it’s
off to a local ensemble to try it out for real.
In the Niibori method I saw the tremolo technique was
used in a very unusual way. You ask for tremolo to be played in some of your
melodies. How do you want it to be played?
For my arrangements, unless otherwise specified, I
assume the use of ‘pami‘ for the tremolo
and leave it up to the interpreter to control the amount of stress the thumb
gives to the beat.
Do you manage a group? How do you work?
At the moment, the York Guitar Quartet and also York
Guitar Society are my areas for group activity. The Quartet can cope anything
I give them but for the society I try to make sure there is a good range of
difficulties in the parts.
Do you teach ensembles? How do you organize the
work? What are your goals with these groups?
I’m no longer teaching though I do run occasional
workshops in North Yorkshire.
These are full day events but I normally send on
scores and parts a month or so before so that the players are reasonably
familiar with what is involved.
I feel an ensemble usually benefits from having a
different director/conductor for a day since new ideas and concepts bring an
extra dimension to their performance.
You have arranged numerous works from all periods of
history but with your quartet, York Guitar Quartet, you have focused more on
contemporary works. Do you think is essential to introduce contemporary music
to ensembles in teaching from the very beginning?
The Quartet started out playing mainly classical and
baroque works since this was what was available. We also have done quite a few
Spanish and Latin American pieces. We then went through our ‘Eastern European‘
phase enjoying Bartok, Stravinsky and Janacek among others. Now we have been
spending more time writing our own material and also commissioning new work
from local composers.
With respect to teaching contemporary material from
the beginning, yes, I certainly include it. As long as the music is good, a young
player will appreciate it without knowing where nor when it is from!
Regardless of the value of
an ensemble as a source of pleasure in itself I think it has tremendous
pedagogical power as the basis of a good musical education. What do you think? What
pedagogical value does playing in ensembles have in the learning process from the
beginning?
For guitarists (and I definitely include myself here),
keeping in time and playing with others is often a problem since the guitar
works so well as a solo instrument. For the first 10 years of my musical life I
never really had an opportunity to play with others (apart from a brief
adventure with a rock band that never quite got off the ground). It was
difficult to appreciate how important it is to play with others; as a soloist I
had been a bad listener - in fact I listened more to what I thought I was
playing than the sound I actually produced. Now I would say it’s the most
important style of playing there is since it’s all about communication.
There are three cds released by York Guitar Quartet in
which there is great originality in the choice of repertoire ranging from
arrangements of your works to Janacek, Bartok and Stravinsky. What would you
highlight above all and why?
We were aware that there were many trios and quartets
out there playing baroque, classical, Spanish and ‘modern’ styles of music but
had not come across anyone delving into the wealth of material from Eastern
Europe. Each member of the quartet had a different musical background and with
separate interests (rock, blues, flamenco, classical etc) I’m sure we all have
different favourites. I still like some of the Bartok we do best.
On your website we can find a collection of the best
ensembles of guitars worldwide. Who do you think stands out from them all?
Many of the ensembles I have never heard since they
have only sent me information. However, I have followed links to their sites
sometimes and recently I have enjoyed listening to…
- Guitarstrophe
- from Australia
and this quartet I think are lovely but I can’t figure out who they are (South Korean I think)….
What must an ensemble have to stand out? What criteria
do you think a quality ensemble should have?
Apart from the obvious requirements of technical skill
and general musicianship, the members must listen to each other, keep a tight
ensemble and have a good agreement over interpretation. With larger ensembles
(say over five or six) a conductor is needed since only someone outside the
ensemble can clearly hear the balance of the parts and control changes in tempo
and dynamics.
For people who don’t know your website, can you tell
them what can they find there?
As it says on the front page …
It offers a range of music composed or transcribed for
guitars and other instruments. It encompasses a range of styles and levels
including guitar ensembles for schools, amateur groups and for more advanced
performers.
The pieces (and parts) are graded in difficulty using
the general levels used by the Associated Board of the Royal Schools of Music,
London and of Trinity Guildhall, London. I am (slowly) adding sound files of
many of the pieces - either that people send to me or as links to performances
or slightly amateurish versions produced by myself.
There is also a survey site where I add information
about guitar ensembles worldwide with URLs and an indication of instruments
used. This I hope is a useful resource for people arranging guitar ensembles so
they can see what types of guitar ensemble exist.
Well, I’ve put links to a lot of interesting sites on my links webpage, but there are ever more sites appearing with guitar resources. For source material (that is out of copyright) I frequently use the IMSLP Petrucci Music Library.
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